I would be surprised if this is true. I have Greek friends (I know it is a different country) and all the bros there do alternative service. If they did the actual military service they would be in front of a jc. All of them used to go to jail when there was no alternative service in the past. So something tells me the guys mentioned have never been baptized.I can't see the situation in Cyprus being any different from Greece or other places in terms of the org's view.
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Cyprus JW's Military Service
by snare&racket ini work with a nurse who served for 2 years in the army of cyprus as is compulsory in that country.
i happened to ask about jw's and their consequential punishment for not doing it.
he laughed and stated that since 2009 they have to do it and that he personally knew several that 'served.
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Skinned and Thrown About.....
by Tech49 inthis is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".
with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".
recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.
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We have a couple in our hall who are trying to put on a brave face. Special pioneers for years. Then deleted. Now struggling on low wages. But he is on the platform all the time. Nice, genuine guy. I wonder how he feels inside. But still ultra loyal. The whole facade is crumbling in front of me and it's not a pretty sight. I have been a witness for over 35 years and only in the last 3 have I 'seen the light.'
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Sisters running microphones?
by NikL inso our sunday meeting was on the 25th (christmas) and my active jw wife and i were out of town enjoying some family time with relatives.. apparently there were many others in our congregation that missed as well.
so few were there in fact that sisters ran the mics.
(actually it was a sister running one of the two mics) a friend of my wife commented to her about how the brothers just aren't stepping up and it "makes her want to cry.
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Passive resistance is what it is all about for me. I was an elder up to a few years ago. Did it all. Now I am still in for family reasons. I do mics and some student talks but no way would I reach out again. I've seen that man behind the curtain.
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November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.
by Crazyguy inthier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
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Crazy guy, all they need to say in an announcement is that "x is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." This tells everybody that he is disfellowshipped. The wording is used in this vague way to avoid lawsuits and also covers those who disassociate themselves.
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Are You Vegetarian Or Not?
by ladonna inwith all the "food" "fluff" larc has started, it has made me wonder how many here are vegetarian or meat eaters.. i like my meat in winter, but only in very small amounts.. summertime i go completely vegetarian and relish fruits and vegetables.. how about you??.
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manners require time, and nothing is more vulgar than haste.
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LoveUniHateExams you should do it. My wife and l have not eaten meat for nearly thirty years. There is a lot of info online on cheap, nutritious and quick to prepare vegetarian food.
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Surviving
by New day ini have recently read 1984 by george orwell and also read a reference on the beroean pickets site to a post on freeminds.org on "1984 and big mother".
the freeminds article is quite old now but nonetheless holds true about how witnesses like myself have to resort to extremely elastic thinking to make sense of everything we read and hear these days at the meetings.
we have to "gain a series of victories over our memories" as we know we were taught certain things that we must now "unlearn" like the absolute certainty about what the generation of matt.
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I have recently read 1984 by George Orwell and also read a reference on the Beroean Pickets site to a post on freeminds.org on "1984 and Big Mother". The freeminds article is quite old now but nonetheless holds true about how Witnesses like myself have to resort to extremely elastic thinking to make sense of everything we read and hear these days at the meetings. We have to "gain a series of victories over our memories" as we know we were taught certain things that we must now "unlearn" like the absolute certainty about what the generation of Matt. 24 means. So depressing as I have to continue as if nothing has changed, for family reasons. Harder and harder to find anything I can comment on at the meetings.
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"Inactive" non Attenders, how much power do the JW's have over YOU ?
by Phizzy ini was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
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Life is to short
I don't think Blondie meant any harm. I think it was an honest point about how might this elder feel if his own relatives were molested by this person. Then his protective attitude to the abuser might change radically if it came to his own front door. Am I correct Blondie?
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Should JWs be watching the the Olympics?
by darkspilver infrom the awake 8 november 1994, page 26. the olympic religious mix.
the olympic games are rooted in greek religion.
they were born as a religious festival to honor zeus, supreme among the greek gods.
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Anyway, to me the point is that plenty of JWs follow the Olympics, their own national football, rugby and other teams. So really us JWs are just like everyone else in this way, but we are too gutless to admit it!
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Should JWs be watching the the Olympics?
by darkspilver infrom the awake 8 november 1994, page 26. the olympic religious mix.
the olympic games are rooted in greek religion.
they were born as a religious festival to honor zeus, supreme among the greek gods.
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Are you trying to score a cheap point here or are you serious? If you are serious, it's a lost cause. Plenty of JWs I know are avid fans of 'their country' even if they hide it a bit. And don't get me going on the everlasting controversy over the Williams sisters! Even though I am still a sort of active Witness I snuck a look at how my 'native' country is doing at the Games. I am not nationalistic (that was sucked out of me over many yrs of being a JW) but some form of interest in how my homeland is doing still remains. Could be something to do with how my countrymen and women usually go down in flames as plucky losers. It's complicated.
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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"
by Sanchy invideo is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
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Got to agree with the comment that Ken Flodin's British branch talk was superb. Practical and actually based on the bible! This is the same guy that on a broadcast some time ago praised Bro Splaine's explanation of the mad new 'overlapping generation' teaching as 'masterful.' Flodin has got to be schizophrenic!